RE: What does an atheist...
December 10, 2009 at 8:20 am
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2009 at 8:46 am by theVOID.)
(December 10, 2009 at 6:39 am)tackattack Wrote: Ive stated that previously. I don't believe in santa claus but I can ask most atheist what image pops in their head and it's of a white guy in a red suit with flying reindeer breaking into houses.
That's because there is only specific guy called Santa Claus out of a range of characters in Christmas myths, so you have already specified in a meaningful. When it comes to god it's more of a category of ideas, similar to the category of characters in Christmas myths, that's why the two are incomparable.
When you talk about god are you talking of a theistic god or a deistic god? is it monotheistic? polytheistic? If monotheistic, which monotheistic god is it? Allah? YHWH? What is it's polytheistic? What are your specific gods defined as? You see, it's not nearly as simple in dealing with god. I can have conceptions about the gods in question but i can't say i have a preconceived god at all, i have many ideas how it could work if at all and i have heard many many many other ideas from different people.
That's why the only way to get forward in discussion is to know what the specific beliefs of each person are, so you can assess the individuals ideas rather than arguing from your own preconceived ideas.
(December 9, 2009 at 6:52 pm)tackattack Wrote: that's predisposing that I am here to argue my point, discuss my views or argue; all of which is counter to my statements of seeking other opinions.
And you aren't always going to get responses you agree with, it's an essential part of any discussion from which you want answers.
(December 9, 2009 at 6:52 pm)tackattack Wrote: serious opinions
I gave you mine, it was seriously what i thought of your idea. I'm sorry if you felt it was harsh criticism but everyone gets it, just part of life. Don't take it personally.
Quote:perhaps it was a little over the top. perhaps it doesn't matter what the level of discrimination is the definition is :
1. The act of discriminating, distinguishing, or noting and marking differences. [1913 Webster]
But if the level of discrimination matters to you the level of evidentiary proof required for belief matters to me. I'm just trying to get a good gauge of your perspective so you'll forgive the methods I'm sure. I do appreciate you honest critiqe though and I'm glad you have no problems telling me what you think of it.
I was critical of your idea, that is not discrimination in any way.
Well now that we know what your god is and you know why we don't have a preconception of god, maybe we can have a real discussion instead of delving off-topic.
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