RE: Proving God Existence
May 28, 2013 at 9:37 am
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2013 at 9:44 am by bennyboy.)
(May 28, 2013 at 2:10 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: You should discuss the proof in its context only
I'm not using the common definition of "Time", I'm only using a sub of its definition which is Events and related events
So when I said, god is outside time, it means His (first action) was/cannot be related to any other event.
If you want to say something exists, then it must be locatable in some dimension or framework. However, anything so locatable must be a CHILD to the framework which contains it. Forget time, even your special variant of it. If God preceeds all frameworks, of all types, then in what sense does He exist? Will you say "God is the one special entity which can exist independent of any framework?" If so, I read this statement as "God is the one special entity which can exist without existing." I can proceed with a bunch of condradictory terms to complement his non-existence existence:
-He is the light which is so bright it cannot be seen.
-He is the alpha which is also the omega (thanks Bible).
-He is the manifestation of all that which cannot be manifested.
etc. etc.
But the problem is this: playing with words in this way doesn't do anything but stimulate pot sales.