(December 10, 2009 at 6:39 am)tackattack Wrote:(December 9, 2009 at 10:29 pm)Amphora Wrote: tackattack you had said:I'd like to hope that perfection is love. I'd like to hope that a God is that love and he shares it with us like photons from the sun.
No love and everything else is not perfect, to think that love is perfect then that is what you believe.
Now the second statement is what you believe god is. Loving, kind, honest, truthful, and many more thing YOU believe god is.
For me I don't believe he loving by seeing all the bad things that happen around the world. Somehow he has better things to do than help starving children in Africa!!
Why can't Love be perfect? First I define perfection as:
Perfection \Per*fec"tion\, n. [F. perfection, L. perfectio.]
1. The quality or state of being perfect or complete, so that nothing requisite is wanting; entire development; consummate culture, skill, or moral excellence; the highest attainable state or degree of excellence; maturity; as, perfection in an art, in a science, or in a system; perfection in form or degree; fruits in perfection. [1913 Webster]
The second statement regarding, loving, kind, honest, truthful, etc. are what we humans use as moralistic guides to achieve the perfect Love. I don't think God is wrath, trusing, jealous, selfish, etc. any justifiable human emotion that can be explained by social development including those in the previous statement. I've explained elsewhere my definition of Love and why it stands apart. I think the world we see (aside from the building blocks of nature) exist because humans create it as such. Almost every tool, object cause-effect is based off human action, desire or belief for good or bad.
Ok fair enough, your out look on love and perfection is good.
The only thing with me is my views love and perfection don't go hand and hand. I have been burned by love before. Sometimes a girl needs to be held, but more often than not a guy wants something different.


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