RE: Proving God Existence
May 29, 2013 at 2:11 am
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2013 at 2:19 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(May 28, 2013 at 10:49 am)little_monkey Wrote: S1= {U(1), U(2), ….}, S2={U(-∞), U(-∞+1), U(-∞+2),….}
Quote:So that's an assumption. Your conclusion S1 is finite, S2 cannot exist is just circular.It is not circular it is a derivative of the premises
It is obvious that S1 will be finite, however it is not my conclusion as the conclusion is about S2 not S1
Quote:In that case, according to your "logic", if God is infinite then he's not realYes, but what do you mean by infinite here?
(May 28, 2013 at 10:10 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: And what of the multiverse theory? Just where does your deity fit into that?I took that in consideration when I wrote Existence=E
The proof is valid for any (finite) number of universes.
(May 28, 2013 at 9:46 am)paulpablo Wrote: You still haven't said what entity exists outside of time and why only one can exist.The term "Time" used in the proof is not the general definition that we use
It goes like this:
Events had a start (proved)
The start event must need a doer (G)
G started the first event and he is not an event of others
We measure time by relating events, related events had a start, so the first event cannot be related to others (as there is none), G must be not related to other events (at or before the first event)
If there are more than one G, then events of one can be related to the other
For example G2 will think when G1 did U, which contradicts with the conclusion, so G must be one.
It is a bit philosophical!