(May 30, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:Since that's what homosexuality means. Two heterosexual men can have sexual relations with each other - that doesn't make them homosexuals. (But proving homosexuality to any degree of certainty is almost impossible.)(May 30, 2013 at 6:30 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Not true. Homosexuality is only a capital crime in Iran perhaps, but definitely not in the kingdom, the yemen or the emirates. Sodomy however, is a capital crime in the kingdom and also the yemen. Not sure about the emirates. They behead them in Saudi Arabia.
When I use the term homosexuality I mean sexual relations between people of the same gender, you seem to be using it to mean simply an attraction between two members of the same gender.
Quote:There is no such "right" - they just do it.(May 30, 2013 at 6:38 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: SOCIETIES are certainly allowed to adopt their own morals and norms. And yes, we have the right to punish them because that is our societal norm.
Ok, so where does the right for societies to adopt their own morality come from?
Quote:Only if you attempt to dictate some absolute morality. What a society considers moral is moral - within that society. That's what morality is - what's acceptable to some group. To Catholicism, forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term is moral.Quote:(May 28, 2013 at 5:35 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: From their point of view, yes.
Not at all. That is entirely possible. I'm not saying that makes it right, but it still makes it acceptable, from their point of view, within their society.
Well we’re talking about what is morally right and what is morally wrong are we not? So it is possible for an entire society to act in a manner that is morally wrong?
Quote:Nothing - to that society, he's morally wrong. His being morally wrong would require an absolute morality - and there is no such thing.Quote: There is not a society on Earth that doesn't have moral dissenters. That doesn't make them morally wrong, but it does make them moral outsiders.
What’s the difference between someone behaving in a manner that is morally wrong and someone being a moral outsider?