(May 31, 2013 at 5:14 pm)Consilius Wrote: If anything in the Bible turns out not to be true, it can only then be taken as a metaphor or a misunderstanding from the people who wrote it before modern science existed.
Do you know what a "Laconic Phrase" is?
During the pelopenisian wars, the city state of Athens invaded the lands of Sparta and attempted to conquere the city of Sparta itself.
The Athenians sent a messenger to the spartans with a message that said:
If you do not surrender we will enslave the entire population, burn down your city and destroy your culture
The Spartans sent back a messenger with the reply:
IF
Arguments based on "IF`s" or "IF not`s" are nothing but weird daydreams kept alive against the opposition of critical thinking with nothing else but a total ignorance of reality.
Facts matter - IF`s dont.
Quote:I should also say that universe made without God is also an unproven assertion that is under heavy debate.
I have never denied that. It is you who insists that god created the universe - without putting forward any evidence.
Quote: I'm not going to enter into that debate with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDd-GXkMrJs
Quote:And, by the way, if you view of a *fundamentalist is a Christian, then that's exactly what I am.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpytjlW5wU