(December 12, 2009 at 12:08 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:(December 12, 2009 at 10:54 am)tackattack Wrote: Your world consists of cause and effects compunded over time into incalculable possibilities of effects.Surely your world does so too.
Yes your world is the same as my world in the cause and effect realm with differences in perspective. By calling it your world I am trying to give the impression that it is the world you percieve around you individually.
(December 12, 2009 at 12:08 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:You conclude that based off of evidence that would exist outside the laws of the known universe. I state God is outside time because several references refer to Goad as Light, love, eternal. Yaweh itself means eternal. Defines as without beginning or end of existence; always existing or existing at all times without change; immutable.. [1913 Webster]Cause and effect is a law which resides solely within our known universe. I think we agree on that.(December 12, 2009 at 10:54 am)tackattack Wrote: If God is sentient then he created the big bang and has a perspective from outside time and space...Causation has no meaning outside time since the concept of causation hinges on being able to identify what event is earlier in time. We can only conclude that your remark about creation outside space and time is sheer nonsense.
(December 12, 2009 at 12:08 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:I have teh same question, I'll ask him.(December 12, 2009 at 10:54 am)tackattack Wrote: ...and is satisfied with the end results of the initial cause so why would he change anything.For a perfect being there is indeed no reason to change anything. So why should a perfect being create a universe?
(December 12, 2009 at 12:08 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:If I had the answer to that I wouldn't be here.(December 12, 2009 at 10:54 am)tackattack Wrote: If he is non-sentient then he caused the big-bang simply by existing and a random or compouned sum of his radiation.What bible are you reading? There is not a thing that comes near to the big bang in the all too common hotel bedside versions of it. And in what bible is the radiation of god described? Is it electromagnetic radiation or particle based?
(December 12, 2009 at 12:08 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:stated above "your world" are the laws of cause and effect as they apply, from your perspective, to the matter you can measure or have an affect on.(December 12, 2009 at 10:54 am)tackattack Wrote: If he doesn't exists then something caused the Big Bang and the world view doesn't change.Your world view or mine?
