Childhood indoctrination

[Forbinator]

I was a vegan, I got some serious health issues.

I suggest you stop, or just become a veggie before you get the same trouble.

That's absurd. All the nutrients we need are available in plant-based food, but with more anti-oxidants, less cholesterol and fewer carcinogens. I've met hundreds of vegans in the animal rights movement here in Melbourne who are very healthy, many of whom have been vegan for 15+ years. There is so much information on the internet about which foods contain which nutrients that there really is no excuse for being deficient. Even if you only eat junk food, worst-case scenario is taking a vitamin pill. No need to enslave animals.

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Does anyone here think that there are logical justifications for exploiting animals for food, clothing and entertainment?

I can eat it, I can wear it, it entertains me.

I can murder someone and get away with it if I plan my alibi well enough, and I can rob a defenceless old lady in a dark alley with no witnesses and get away with it, but these are not valid as justifications, not least because they fail to acknowledge the impact on the victim.