Childhood indoctrination

[Forbinator]

@"The Germans Are Coming": Actually I think you are the one repeating the same argument ad nauseum: "but we're humans, and they're only animals!" This argument is only relevant if you explain what differences you are referring to between species. The similarities are the survival instinct, will to live and ability to suffer (already mentioned multiple times). You have not provided any differences that are relevant to the debate.

And veganism is not a legal movement, it is consumer driven. I would love it to become illegal to kill animals for pleasure, but that won't happen until a majority of people are vegan.

And don't go calling me stupid; you're the one who made the comment about whether wolves ask permission of deer before they kill them. My reply simply demonstrated the absurdity of what you had said and how ridiculous it was to apply that behaviour to our civilisation.

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This argument again?

I think my response is usually something like the following:

I've been vegetarian since I was 5... blah blah blah... What other people eat is none of my business (with a few exceptions that aren't just because I'm vegetarian) ... blah... erm.... oh, and animas aren't like people with people emotions and shit.


I occasionally give up dairy and eggs and give the vegan thing ago but give up because I love cheese and milk chocolate...

Oh, and giving meat to children is certainly not "indoctrination." It's perfectly natural for humans to eat meat. We can survive with or without it just fine. It should be a personal choice. I personally won't be giving my children meat (if I have any) but once they're old enough to ask for it, I won't have a problem with them eating meat that someone else has prepared for them. Of course, I'd like them to be veggie, but because they want to, not because I am. But I'm probably not having kids, so whatever.

I hope that one day you are able to shift the focus away from yourself and towards the victims. When an action has a victim, I think it's very difficult to consider it a "personal choice", as the action necessarily affects others.