RE: What does an atheist...
December 14, 2009 at 4:56 am
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2009 at 7:44 am by tackattack.)
(December 13, 2009 at 4:54 pm)Ace Wrote:I definately believe the coincidence exists. The more complex and rare the outcome the less probability of it being random. I see patterns in the coincedences that some have called wishfull thinking. If it's not random what is it, evolution? How many planets out of the billions do we calculate are inhabitable? What is the likelyhood that we are the most advanced if not only species? What are the odds that out of billions of planets, we would evolve from something animalistic into a coherent self-aware being? Yes, as a species we struggle to survive and overcome adversity, but explain the anomaly of humainty, please?(December 13, 2009 at 7:19 am)tackattack Wrote: Because logically there is only so much coincidence that can be stacked upon another before you question is there a bigger design and who designed it.
Coincidences take place billions of times a second. It's a coincidence that your parents met at the right time and had sex at the right time to create you. One hour off or even a minute off could mean you wouldn't be here right now. The fact that your parent's parents met and had sex at the right time to create your parents who met at the right time and had sex at the right time to create you. If they had sex an hour off someone else would of been born instead of you. All this is by sheer coincidence. I see no reason to think there is some kind of designer if there is no evidence of one. There are no limits for coincidence. Coincidence/chances is just one more thing human beings have a common lack of understanding of. Jumping to a god conclusion is just silly. You don't need any god for billions of coincidences to take place. Lack of understanding can often lead to unreasonable conclusions.
(December 14, 2009 at 4:49 am)theVOID Wrote:I'm pretty sure I've actually tried not to call him loving only Love. I've defined repeatedly that I feel God's Love is different than the terms we define as the emotion or act of love here on earth.(December 14, 2009 at 4:33 am)tackattack Wrote:(December 13, 2009 at 9:53 am)LEDO Wrote: Seems to me that a God can: 1) Stop people from suffering, but does not. 2) end disease, but does not, 3) end death but does not, 4) end poverty but does not, 5) end starvation, but does not ...meets the definition of evil.
Looks like to me like the devil is God in exile. I would worship your god, if he was nicer.
Niceness is something I can't attribute to God.
Yet you have no problem calling him loving in previous posts?
(December 14, 2009 at 4:49 am)theVOID Wrote:I don't understand your wording. Could you please define "the idea of a personal god"Quote:On your above points how does inaction = evil.
I'm not of the opinion that it does either, it is if anything indifferent - but that is contradictory to the idea of a personal god.
(December 14, 2009 at 4:49 am)theVOID Wrote:My point was man does this to his fellow man. He may use God as an excuse for going to war, feeding the hungry, etc. but good or bad; we do it to ourseleves.Quote: If I don't help 1 homeless man but 1000 others does that make me evil?
No, it makes you the least compassionate out of 1001 individuals.
Quote:Just because he doesn't stop your suffering, your diseases, etc. doesn't mean he doesn't supply that to others.
If he can chose to provide a smug asshole like Benny Hinn with so much money than he doesn't know what to do with it, but then denies food and medicine to millions of starving, innocent children, then it makes him the biggest asshole ever.
pardon the doublepost