RE: What does an atheist...
December 14, 2009 at 5:27 am
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2009 at 5:28 am by theVOID.)
(December 14, 2009 at 4:56 am)tackattack Wrote:(December 13, 2009 at 4:54 pm)Ace Wrote:I definately believe the coincidence exists. The more complex and rare the outcome the less probability of it being random.(December 13, 2009 at 7:19 am)tackattack Wrote: Because logically there is only so much coincidence that can be stacked upon another before you question is there a bigger design and who designed it.
Coincidences take place billions of times a second. It's a coincidence that your parents met at the right time and had sex at the right time to create you. One hour off or even a minute off could mean you wouldn't be here right now. The fact that your parent's parents met and had sex at the right time to create your parents who met at the right time and had sex at the right time to create you. If they had sex an hour off someone else would of been born instead of you. All this is by sheer coincidence. I see no reason to think there is some kind of designer if there is no evidence of one. There are no limits for coincidence. Coincidence/chances is just one more thing human beings have a common lack of understanding of. Jumping to a god conclusion is just silly. You don't need any god for billions of coincidences to take place. Lack of understanding can often lead to unreasonable conclusions.
Actually it is the exact opposite - The more random a system is the greater the chance is for complexity, diversity and rarity.
Quote:I see patterns in the coincedences that some have called wishfull thinking. If it's not random what is it, evolution?
That question doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Quote: How many planets out of the billions do we calculate are inhabitable?
There are 400,000,000,000 Stars in this galaxy alone, and billions of galaxies each containing a few hundred billion stars of their own. In our own solar system there are 8 planets, two of which fall into the so called goldilocks zone - those two being Earth and Mars and while mars does not contain vibrant life due to harsh conditions it is still within the temperature zone expected to make carbon based life a possibility.
Even being entirely pessimistic in calculating the probability of habitable worlds in the universe, if even 1 planet per 1,000,000 solar systems has a planet suitable for life as we know it, there are still billions upon billions of planets in the universe that by chance alone would be similar enough to our own and able to hold life.
Quote: What is the likelyhood that we are the most advanced if not only species?
Extremely unlikely
Quote: What are the odds that out of billions of planets, we would evolve from something animalistic into a coherent self-aware being?
The chances that we specifically are here? Extremely unlikely
The chances that intelligent life will arise somewhere in the universe? Extremely likely
Where and who in the universe does not matter in the slightest, it is to suggest that Humanity is more special than any other intelligent life form on any other habitable planet in the universe which is simply not the case.
Quote: Yes, as a species we struggle to survive and overcome adversity, but explain the anomaly of humainty, please?
Bad odds lead to sporadic success - it's as simple as that.
It does not matter that it was this species that evolved intelligence first - if it wasn't us then it would be another species that would eventually evolve intelligence. If it didn't happen on earth then it would have been another planet and either way you still have intelligent life somewhere in the universe sitting around and asking themselves 'what the fuck is going on here?' just like we are right now.
It takes far more humility to admit that we are lucky than it does to suppose we're divine.
