(June 1, 2013 at 6:33 am)Consilius Wrote: First of all, Jesus Christ existed as a historical figure. Plenty of historians say so.Ad pop, I think that I'd like to see their evidence.
Quote:Dying on a cross? My evidence is that Christianity came to be the religion of millions when it started out surrounded by devout Jews who savagely killed its followers, and spread across the Roman Empire, despite that many more of it followers were killed as well.Most often by other followers of the same religion of peace. This fabulous upstart story is as fictitious as the narrative it spawned from. Let's see some evidence?
Quote:Whatever these people preached, it had to be something worth listening to, and something worth believing as well, since so many people died for it.Many people have died (and killed) for many things - most of them not something that you'd call "worth listening to" I'd wager.
Quote:It would take quite the conspiracy to make that stuff up.Apparently not, you seem to have bought it hook line and sinker - and I;m guessing that you didn;t take much convincing eh? How hard could it be?
Quote: If Jesus Christ HAD been a story, it would have made as little sense to first century Jews and Romans as it does to you.It did make little sense to the first folks who came into contact with.
Quote: In Jesus' time, gods didn't love people. And if they ever were on earth, they didn't die.Of course gods loved people, sometimes they "really really" loved them. Gods also die. There are entire "sacrificial pantheons" in the world buddy.
Quote:So I also believe in the Christian story because it is so original.Really? I find it difficult to see what might be original about a stolen god narrative.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
