RE: Hello
December 14, 2009 at 10:12 am
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2009 at 10:18 am by Joe Bloe.)
(December 14, 2009 at 1:15 am)tackattack Wrote: The Bible is God’s progressive revelation of Himself to us through historical events and through His relationship with people throughout history might contribute to misconceptions about what God is like in the Old Testament as compared to the New Testament. More precisely it is Human interpretation of then unknowable aspects of God. The parts that are humanistic and justifiable through the natural evolution of social growth I attribute to man. God's love and forgiveness I can not see falling into that logic, ergo I attribute that to an actual insight to God.
19The Lord was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots. (NIV)
see below for all of the different versions including translator notes on that verse.
http://bible.cc/judges/1-19.htm
Actually it states that the men could not drive out the chariots of iron even though God was with them and even though they took the hillside. This was after many long battles where they cut thumbs off their enemies and ransacked jeruselem, etc. It sounds to me like they were just at war and thought God was on their side. God doesn't choose sides in my view, he is a side and you can either be on his or be on your own. God is with me everyday and doesn't pay my checks at tire's plus for me. I hate how some agnostics and lots of Christians quote the Bible like every single word is carved in stone. You have to have a broader perspective if you're going to look at the bible as proof against God than one line at a time in my opinion.
Yeah, I know about apologetics and I'm not impressed. If a bible text sounds stupid or contradicts some other text, it is immediately reinterpreted (without evidence) as metaphorical, allegorical, or "taken out of context".
Or (as you have done in the last sentence quoted above) the apologist will suggest that the bible-reading-technique of the skeptic is not as good as the technique of the gullible believer. Sounds good to other believers, but just a cheap shot, really...
