(December 12, 2009 at 4:21 pm)rjh4 Wrote: Sure sounds like you are saying that only those that have searched and come to agree with you have done “honest questioning”. Again, similar to the True Scotsman Fallacy.
When have I stated that specifically because you believe in the Bible and God (i.e. Disagree with me) that you haven't "truly" studied it? Have I actually ever said it? Please point out where I have specifically made that exact statement and I will correct myself.
I am talking about the fact that you simply dismiss legitimate questions and contradictions in the Bible because you've decided the Bible is true. You've said that yourself...in fact...
(December 13, 2009 at 10:37 am)rjh4 Wrote: My world view begins with the presuppositions that God exists and the Bible is the Word of God. I think this world view provides a better explanation for the reality that we exist in and answers more questions than a natualistic world view that says that man can determine how the reality that we exist in came to be. Given my world view and presuppositions, it follows that when there is some conflict between a conclusion drawn by man and the Bible, I will go with the Bible.
You have clearly stated you have decided God and the Bible are true and that you ignore evidence that contradicts your presuppositions. So what I have stated seems to be spot on. Honest inquiry means you accept the conclusion based on the evidence, not based on what you like and just ignore what evidence you don't like. This is completely contradictory to a skeptical, pragmatic, scientific mind. Science bases it's conclusions on the evidence, not the other way around. How can you possibly determine what is true about the world if you are so dogmatic about what you believe? When you determine what must be true and make the evidence fit what you believe, then you're not being truly honest in your inquiries. My calling you out on statements you have said is not a "true scotsman fallacy".
(December 12, 2009 at 4:21 pm)rjh4 Wrote:(December 12, 2009 at 9:34 pm)theVOID Wrote: Oh, you believe the Earth was created before the sun? Cute.I do. Why do you believe that the sun came to be before the earth?
Because good reliable science has shown us that this is how our solar system came to be! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_a...lar_System Not an ancient book written by men completely ignorant of astronomy!
(edit: Lol, I just noticed my last statement rhymes)
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin
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