I think a few misconceptions need to be cleared up.
(June 3, 2013 at 1:05 am)ThomM Wrote: The "god" is eternal - has no beginning and no end - in XtianityJesus was fully god and fully man at the same time. Confusing, I know. People have been at this for years.
So - the god CANNOT DIE - that is just one of the MAJOR conflicts in the XTIAN nonsense.
Quote:The claim that the god became man is nonsense - just as much as the idea that the god can actually exist - which it cannot as described. There are too many conflicting attributes to existSuch as…man is sinful and man can die? Jesus, when becoming a man, became able to experience death. Man is sinful because of what he does. Jesus, not only being man but also God and under the direction of God, was kept free from sin so he could keep himself a pure sacrifice on the cross.
Quote:In fact - the "god" (THere is only one god in xtianity) did not actually become man - even in their fairy tales - only the "son" part became man.God and Jesus are two aspects of the same person.
Quote:If the ONE god actually became man - and died - there would be no power to raise him from the dead - man does not possess that power. THAT alone prevents the claim that the god became man.Jesus, as a man, died. This man was also God. God cannot die. But God fully resurrected Jesus in his human form.
Quote:Of course - why would a god NEED to die to begin with - there was NO reason. IF - as the bible claims - we are only responsible for our OWN sins - and NOT those of our fathers or others - then the only "person" who needed saving from original sin was the EVE myth - whose story IS proven to be a fairy tale now.That people need to take care of their own sins is the law that God dictates. But, humanity still not having paid for its sins, God decided to get rid of our sins for us. By himself.
Quote:As far as the "son" part becoming man - that story has TOO many holes in it to be true. THE stories include things like miracles - things BEYOND the ability of a real human. THey also include things like a virgin birth - which of course does not actually happen in humans as well.This normal human was God at the same time. God made Jesus' miracles possible in a human being.
Quote:And of course - the christ myth also cannot fulfill the prophecies for the mesiah that are right in the bible. THe claim of a new covenant - means that the word of god cannot be trusted - he will not fulfill his word - which is a major problem for the jews - since they believe that their god's word is good for all eternity.Jesus did fulfill the Old Testament prophecies—the problem is that they were taken with human interpretations, which Jesus could not fulfill, because these interpretations were not correct. Jesus still is a king, prophet, servant, and savior, just not in the way people expected him to be.