Childhood indoctrination

[Gilgamesh]

Yes, intuitively morals are what we feel is right. However in history people have often felt something is right that is in reality terribly unjust (slavery, fascism, genocide) and they would've realized this if they had thought things through rather than just follow others. This is the highest ideal of post-religious society, namely to use ones own reason and not rely on others for thinking. But we don't, we just accept what everyone else accepts, and we commit atrocities in many cases for no better justification than our enjoyment of meat or fur.

People to tend to accept what the society they live in accepts, without first putting that thing through their own thought process, yes; you happen to be speaking to one of the few who don't do that - a genuine free-thinker. I don't accept that killing animals for meat is okay because everyone else does; I accept that it's okay because I can't reason that it's wrong.

Also, because I eat meat and support killing animals for meat; that does not mean I support the processing of animals in every instance. I don't necessarily support the industry.

Death is such a cruel punishment that in Europe it is not even dealt out to the greatest child molester or murderer, but still we deal it out in the billions every year for no good reason at all.

Would you eat those child molesters and murderers after they're killed? Nobody else would. If people ate other people no problem, you can bet your ass criminals would be put to death.

But it was a cute appeal to emotion, at any rate.