Childhood indoctrination

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All the B groups and Iron

http://veganeasy.org/Nutrition

And synthetics are MORE biodegradable? Poor argument.

Don't put words in my mouth. The point I'm making is that since leather is also highly damaging, the environmental argument is not strong enough to justify the animal suffering involved when compared to synthetics. Why should animals pay for our environmental degradation?

Given that animal-based food requires 6-10 x more land mass per kg of product than plant-based food, doesn't this offset any potential damage caused by cotton, hemp, polyester etc.? Overall land use in a "vegan utopia" is far less than in our current world, and involves less petrol consumption from milk tanks driving between farms every day, shipping of grain to feed animals, transport of animals etc.

No dispute there but your vegetarian utopia will destroy a great many ecosystems to feed the planet. Unless of course you condone the "culling" of 50% of the total world population that are unable to sustain a vegan/ vegetarian diet?

How can we be destroying more ecosystems if we're using less land? And there is plenty of nutritional information online to make sure everyone gets the nutrients they need. Worst case scenario: take a freaking vitamin pill!

But that is the thing isn't it? these sheep, cattle, fowl and pigs are NOT wild nor are they endemic to their respective environments. You seem to prefer a cruel and agonising death for these animals that were once domesticated in support of your ideology.

No I do not. It would actually be cruel to simply release all the farmed animals. We need to stop the breeding process and phase out production. As a compromise i'll even let you eat the ones who are alive on the condition that production stops! :p

See there is the problem. You are NOT "saving lives" either animal nor human. You are just perpetuating the predator and prey cycle and the further pollution of our environment via exploitation of petrochemicals and seem to support Monsanto with it's GMO franchise. Otherwise how else are you going to feed 4 billion people (assuming you have "culled" all those who are unable genetically to be vegan/ vegetarians)

You really are starting to sound liken to a religion which you are railing against dearie.

Again I don't see how advocating a system that requires less land use can possibly be seen as worse for the environment. No, I don't support Monsanto. Ideally all crop production should be organic. All humans are naturally herbivorous (http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/natural.html), and the nutrition aspect has already been explained ad nauseum. Please provide me with the literature showing the "omnivore gene" that prevents 50% of humans being vegan?