Childhood indoctrination

[littleendian]

So you are saying they are an inferior species and can be exploited as you see fit?

Fruit are the "babies" of the plant and this is ok by you?

Thanks for bringing a condescending tone into this.

No, they feel much less or no pain when I eat them, and many parts of plants are actually designed to be eaten. Fruits aren't babies, they're seeds, they are designed to be eaten so a plant can grow somewhere else. But that totally aside: If I want to survive, I need to at least eat plants, that's a requirement for my survival, therefore I don't have a choice except to die, and I think it is not immoral under these circumstances to eat plants just like a wolf is not immoral for eating a lamb.

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why constantly bring the word torchure in? I dont see any comercial buisness which offers the torchure of animals as a product except for circuses, pet shops and zoos (which I oppose)

With seven billion people (and counting) on the planet and everyone wanting to eat meat on a regular basis, and considering the stress this puts on the system, I think it is unrealistic to assume industry is going to pay much attention to the pain and suffering it might produce as a side product. They sure as hell don't care today.

What you do personaly is non of my buisness, nore is it my buisness to annoy you about it.
It only becomes my buisness when you inforce it on others.

I'm not inforcing it on others, we're having a discussion, there is a difference.

I couldn't care less about what you personally do, I don't think you can be convinced, but there might be other people here who are less hardcore speciesists who can be convinced one way or the other by this discussion, it's for them that I won't let your speciesist claims stand.