RE: Childhood indoctrination
June 3, 2013 at 9:44 am
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2013 at 9:48 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(June 3, 2013 at 9:37 am)Forbinator Wrote: So you are against animal cruelty then, at least to the extent that it is convenient for you.
ad homenim?
(June 3, 2013 at 9:37 am)Forbinator Wrote: May I ask why?
Why what?
(June 3, 2013 at 9:37 am)Forbinator Wrote: If you're rejecting the notion that we should behave in a civilised manner towards them, then surely animal cruelty would be acceptable under that system?
assumption
(June 3, 2013 at 9:37 am)Forbinator Wrote: "The Germans are Coming" has already brushed this aside by saying that morality is always based on convenience, but surely there are moral positions where people are required to rise above convenience?
Why? do you like being malnourished?
(June 3, 2013 at 9:37 am)Forbinator Wrote: There is a serious inconsistency if you're against beating a cow with a stick for fun (senseless cruelty) but are happy to pay slaughterhouse workers to beat a cow with a stick to get her to walk to her death (legalised cruelty that is inevitable in that system of food production).
ad hominem and assumption.
(June 3, 2013 at 9:37 am)Forbinator Wrote: To you, these actions are different, but to the victim they are identical. Why be against one cruelty but support another?
You have NOT listened to a word I have said. Your only saving grace is that the written word has difficulties in expressing nuance, inflection, tone and meaning from the above.
I could say the same to you, that you are happy to have plants beaten with sticks their whole ecosystem wiped out just so you are fed and nourished? You are happy to support the cruelty inflicted on our environment to save your moral high ground?
(June 3, 2013 at 9:20 am)littleendian Wrote: Okay, this is now deteriorating into simple name-calling and accusations, of which I'm admittedly not innocent, but it won't help anyone and the internet has already enough flame wars on record. So I'm taking a hiatus from this thread until the dust settled or very interesting new points emerge
So essentially you are saying you have no way of defending your position and am happy to vilify me by claiming the victim card?....well done endie
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