Excavating The Empty Tomb

[Pandas United]

Oh boy.. I'm gonna need to do a play-by-play on this one.

No you simply clung to words that sounded pretty. Since when did any polythistic religion or monothesitic religion invent the concepts of human compassion or cruelty?

Don't you find it odd that this all powerful god could "poof" all this into existence but cant heal an amputee?

Not sure what this has to do with anything stated before.

And if a theist is willing to admit people of other religions can be good and atheists also can be good, THAT is proof that we don't need to believe your book of fiction anymore than you need the Reg Vedas to live your life.

Not in the slightest. Just because atheists have the ability to do good does not mean they can tell me why I should do good. Or even what "good" is.

I can find morals in S[t]ar Wars and Dr Sues too, but I accept fiction as fiction.

Great. Me too.

For any good compassionate thing you claim Jesus said, you can also find quotes where he tells you to abandon or even put to death your own family.

Like what? If your talking about Luke 14:26, then I am deeply saddened that you would take that verse as complete literal.

Liking pretty stories does not justify claims of magic, nor does it constitute morality which has always been a product of evolution and nature and has never been dependent on one religion.

If morality and ethics is simply a byproduct of survival benefits inhabited by natural selection then why should I follow it?

Religon takes what we naturally do, both good and bad, and teaches us as a species to cherry pick so we can justify absurdity and cruelty to others.

You're right. "Love your neighbor as yourself" is an absurd law that was only established to justify cruelty.

Humans do good because the cooperation part of evolution works. But gang mentality ALSO works. And a good way to mask a gang as lagit is to claim magical divine morality.

Once again, if morality is only the byproduct of the evolutionary process, then why should I be moral? It's only a survival mechanism that was adapted into the human psyche. There's no objective basis for thinking I need to be a moral person.

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What presupposition? I sought out God as an agnostic and came to find Him in Jesus. And to say that it is "simply too much to ask" for respectful and substantive dialogue tells me a lot about your approach to argumentation and the environment of these forums overall.

How disappointing.

Typical, a christian joining just to be offended. If you had some substantive argumentation you wouldn't be clinging to pride or such futile offended feelings.

Can't say I'm disapointed... rather typical, like I said

Nope, not offended. Just puzzled by the amount of slander and ridicule on this board rather then dialogue that is intellectually stimulating.

Nice try though...