(June 4, 2013 at 2:01 am)Ryantology Wrote:(June 4, 2013 at 1:54 am)Undeceived Wrote: What do you think this is, science class? I made a logical argument. Refute it with logic. Is it possible to love without free will? Is love a legitimate reason for a good God to allow evil? In philosophy, arguments are made with logic and thought experiments. Use logic and/or thought experiments to show how one could answer "no" to both of the above questions.
Can someone love through freedom of will if it is made explicitly clear that failure to show enough love will result in nightmarish, endless torment?
Could not an all-powerful God devised a way for love to exist without evil being a necessary part of it?
Hate to barge in here ...but I couldn't help myself!
God wants us to be like Him! If you think about it... its the only way we could exist together. So, how does a God give us His divinity, without making us "The God"?
Answer: By purification!
I know this raises more questions, but without evil there is no contrast. There is no option. There is no cleansing of impurity! There is no spiritual growth.
We start as "peas" spiritually. We either grow (spiritually) or wither and die (with the flesh)! Because we were created in "God's image", there is a "seed" that we are in care of! It either bursts into a Redwood, or turns into kindling!
And because we are still "seeds" of God, He can't destroy us (i.e.) put us out of total existence! Unfortunately, that's where hell comes in. And where we put ourselves, apart from God...if that is our will.
Again, sorry for the intrusion! I hope I made somewhat logical points. Ron
Quis ut Deus?
