(June 5, 2013 at 7:14 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It never dawned on you that presenting an example of something that we would -very accurately- call a miscarriage of justice might run counter to your point?
A person doing more time for shooting the President than for shooting another civilian is in no way a miscarriage of justice.
Quote:A false dichotomy..oh boy you're out of practice. Nowhere did I imply that either of the two options were the only options- simply that these were the two being compared- and as such we needn't be aware of or understand every possible option to compare the two. We still don't, my point stands. I'm willing to accept that there may be other systems of justice out there that have nothing to do with either option presented...and I'd further suggest that they could be better, or worse, or equivalent to either in this regard.
You were treating two options as mutually exclusive when they are not, that’s constructing a false dichotomy.
Quote: If you have some 3rd or 300th system to offer, do so, and we'll compare that one as well.
I do not have to, we already use a very similar system to the one God uses.
Quote: No one's claimed that our justice system is infallible or that it always lives up to it's own principles Stat.....simply that what you've offered as divine justice doesn't live up to the principles of our system of earthly justice. Again, it falls short .
Nope, I already gave numerous examples where we use the very same reasoning that we find in scripture. Secondly, by definition God’s concept of justice could never fall short of ours, so if the two differ at all it means that ours is the one that falls short.
Quote: Lets just clear this up. Put your convictions into your response.
You steal 100$ from, say, a circuit court judge.
I steal 100$ from some unemployed, unimportant minority citizen in the ghetto.
Which of us deserves the longer or shorter sentence Stat?
It’s a faulty analogy because you’ve created a financial disparity between the victims, we have to remove that variable. A better example would be, you steal 100 dollars from a circuit judge who is worth 500,000 dollars and I steal 100 dollars from my neighbor (an engineer) who is also worth 500,000 dollars you’d be sentenced to more time because of the authority of your victim and rightly so. Send a threatening letter to your neighbor and then send a threatening letter to President Obama and see which one you do more time for.