RE: Proving God Existence
June 10, 2013 at 9:01 am
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2013 at 9:03 am by bennyboy.)
(June 10, 2013 at 7:45 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: You need to realize the trick here, We know some facts (directly about the universe) but for God we can prove his attributes only from what we know about existence, so you cannot repeat the process again on God.
Here's what's happening: you have a philosophical issue which you cannot solve, because you see "normal" logic as paradoxical. So you create a magic "solve all problems" box, prostate yourself to it, and consider the issues solved.
The problem is that you can attribute this philosophical magical quantity to ANY imaginary entity, not only to Allah, your preferred magical entity.
Problem: everything which exists must have a beginning, but infinite regression hurts my brain, so something must have the special power of already existing despite never having been created:
Solution 1: a magic space monkey which IS WHILE NOT BEING did it.
Solution 2: the four psychic winds of Boobledeeboo, which eternally co-create each other, created psychic eddies, which manifest as our universe.
Solution 3: the non-sentient "Divide by Zero" formula converted all numbers to infinity, and back into the form of its non-sentient (and therefore fully mindful) will.
Solution 4: Allah magically exists without having been created, despite the rule that all things must have been created
See the problem? All the specific solutions are just the same process with different imaginary friends executing the impossible. EVEN IF we are disposed to accept the necessity of a philosophical meat-grinder that turns the impossible into the possible, why should we choose yours? The others at least have the benefit of being fun, and of not causing people to crash airplanes into buildings.