Proving God Existence

[paulpablo]

You need to realize the trick here, We know some facts (directly about the universe) but for God we can prove his attributes only from what we know about existence, so you cannot repeat the process again on God.

Here's what's happening: you have a philosophical issue which you cannot solve, because you see "normal" logic as paradoxical. So you create a magic "solve all problems" box, prostate yourself to it, and consider the issues solved.

The problem is that you can attribute this philosophical magical quantity to ANY imaginary entity, not only to Allah, your preferred magical entity.

Problem: everything which exists must have a beginning, but infinite regression hurts my brain, so something must have the special power of already existing despite never having been created:
Solution 1: a magic space monkey which IS WHILE NOT BEING did it.
Solution 2: the four psychic winds of Boobledeeboo, which eternally co-create each other, created psychic eddies, which manifest as our universe.
Solution 3: the non-sentient "Divide by Zero" formula converted all numbers to infinity, and back into the form of its non-sentient (and therefore fully mindful) will.
Solution 4: Allah magically exists without having been created, despite the rule that all things must have been created

See the problem? All the specific solutions are just the same process with different imaginary friends executing the impossible. EVEN IF we are disposed to accept the necessity of a philosophical meat-grinder that turns the impossible into the possible, why should we choose yours? The others at least have the benefit of being fun, and of not causing people to crash airplanes into buildings.

I didn't even read all this post but gave you thumbs up for the word boobledeeboo.

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paulpablo Wrote: So then it is possible for god to have been created by another god who he doesn't know about?

Theoretically, yes
but in this case he is not God, if we define the word God as a creator but not created.

Quoteoes this mean god had no conscious flow of thought before the big bang? If so then how did he decide to start the big bang if events such as thoughts within him are impossible before the first event?

Good question?
Islam tells about God that he is one unit "Samad", there is nothing as flow inside him, or that he is divided into separate/identified parts.

Asking how he do things, is impossible to be answered or even understood
Because we are only used to construct an idea by knowing its details
For God there is no whole and details, he is one unit and unique.

So as you said it is impossible for you to know how your god (a god who does things while having no flow inside him of anything) is capable of conscious thought or decisions.
This in itself is a paradox of logic, god has thought and conscious decisions, yet god has no fluid flowing inside parts at all and before the big bang has no time to operate in at all. So without time or moving parts or anything else which operates how would god be able to even create a slice of toast, he manages to create a universe.
You say you don't know which is fair enough but then why be critical of christians, they tell you god has a son they don't know how.
You are basically in the same position as everyone else, you know nothing about what is outside our time and space you are just guessing the quran is right.