Proving God Existence

[paulpablo]

The answer is very simple
You are very near sighted! (A typical way of how women think)

When we look (just) to your statement, yes there is no difference they are just claims, Islam is like Christianity or any other religion.

You need to build (scientifically) your thoughts
In a proof each step leads to the next
Step N is nothing without considering step N-1 as a solid fact

You can evaluate the proof in a different method as well, from bottom up instead of top down

Think about the conclusion; is it logical given that the previous step is true, then go back.

Even if you don't agree with the conclusion; is it consistent or not?

There is nothing near sighted with what I'm saying you are just failing to provide proof of the part of your claims I'm focusing on.
(This is typical of muslims who cannot speak english properly like yourself)
Are you saying that you cannot prove that god is unique and that it is actually just an unsubstantiated claim?

You make a claim about what is outside of space and time and say god must be unique because if there was another one like him then there would be time because time is related events between two things.

I didn't disagree with you on this I simply asked you to then explain how god does things such as decide to create a universe or have thoughts himself if he cannot have time or processes due to your own definition of god (a single entity with no inner processes or parts).

You then said you could not explain this.

This means your proof that god is unique is actually just an unsubstantiated claim and nothing more nothing less.

You claim he did something and you don't know how he did it, it is just as much of a believable claim as someone saying god had a son but they don't know how he did it, or me saying the great giant elephant created the universe I just don't know how he did it.

If you have an unsupported claim it is just as unsupported as any other unsupported claim.

It isn't that I'm agreeing with you or disagreeing with you but you just cannot explain your own proof that god is unique. And you're imposing rules on what is outside of space and time.

We don't know what exists outside of space and time so we have no rules of physics regarding what is outside of space and time. Your claim that god has to be unique because if there were another one like him then time would exist is useless because there could be two entities existing separate from each other just as the god you claim exists can be separate from our time and space.


In summery

1 Your claims of what happens outside of space and time cannot be verified anyway because no scientist knows what happens outside of our space and time. THIS ALSO MEANS IT IS ILLOGICAL TO MAKE CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF TIME AND SPACE BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY LOGICALLY MAKE CLAIMS ABOUT THE LAWS OF TIME WITHIN OUR TIME AND SPACE (just because I know you are going to say something along the lines of logic is more reliable than science or some other babble)

2 Even if your claims are true they prove god cannot have a conscious because he has no time or processes in which to think, so he could not have decided to create the universe before time existed.