In a world without God...

[Drich]

Are these stories meant to be some sort of proof that god talked to you. Well i'm sorry but they are not evidence of anything.

They are not meant to be evidence of anything. You asked a Question. Did you talk to God? with in those two threads lies my answer.

They are not demonstrable to anyone else and they cannot be repeated. And didn't you say that god can only talk to you through the bible, but you said he did in your hallucination.

Only? No. I said No personal revelation can be trumped by what is in the bible.

Or was it that you cannot understand him unless its in the bible?

Again, No. My comperhension of the God of the Bible begins and ends with the bible. The bible is the measure of all things 'spiritual.' Meaning My understanding of God is verified through scripture. If I have a personal revelation then it must not contradict the bible other wise it can be dismissed no matter how real.

To be honest I didn't really bother properly reading your stories because I instantly knew there would be no point. It is evidence for you but not for anyone else

YES! You are right!! So why do I share? It's not like I have been ear marked or considered special by God. I simply took Him up on the promises He made in the bible, and this was my result. I share these stories so as to help people connect with their own version of what I experienced, so they too can receive the personal proof God has for each and every one of us.

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Only just finished reading both your stories and i have come to the conclusion that you are either a liar or schizophrenic.

Maybe your right, and maybe it is as i said it was. The surest way to find out is take God up on what He has promised.

Don't you think it a little odd that when any religious person dies and comes back they see what they believe e.g. Christians see heaven and God, Muslims see allah and paradise. I think you are suffering from schizophrenia, please go get your head look at

I guess you are the liar, and did not actually read either one of those threads. As I did not see Heaven/Paradise.

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Like the part where Jesus insists that his followers adhere to Mosaic law until Heaven and Earth are gone,

BCV? Where was that?

but then you interpret this very clear and repeated command to suggest that what he really meant was that you don't even have to bother trying because you want to believe that all you have to do is ask for forgiveness, so that's what will you insist he's actually saying, because you either find Mosaic law to be too barbaric and your God-given conscience balks at fulfilling about half of what is demanded of you, or because the strength of your faith in the eternal is not strong enough to overcome your desire to not spend the rest of your finite life in prison.

First you must establish that Christ said what you claim, then you must reconsile all of the other verses in said bible that seem to go against your understanding of what Christ said, before you can preach this message.

If you want some help I can provide with BCV on all of the verses that condradict your message/understanding of what you think Christ said.

You're choosing to interpret the Bible in such a way that makes it easier on you; you can say to yourself that you worship the God of the Bible, but your worship of the Bible is every bit as tailored to your own desires as every other Christian I've ever known, and according to yourself, practicing your faith that way is only going to lead to Jesus looking at you when it is time for your judgement and telling you that you said all the right things but you did not even bother making a token effort to uphold the commandments as he requested in his sermon, therefore, your love for Christ was really nothing more than selfish piety, looking out for yourself before Christ, and you'll end up in hell right along with all of us.

If this is true then I will indeed have hell to pay and will welcome it, this time around. As in my understanding of everything I have studied and read over the last 20 years has lead me to rebuild my beliefs several times, (Several different denominations of faith) and maybe before i die several times more. I leave nothing in reserve, as all of my understanding, all of my strength, all of my heart, and all of my spirit has gone into my belief, for the singular purpose of Loving The God of the bible, first and then my neighbor as my self. With that said if all I am is not good enough then I will find contentment in Hell because I know there was nothing else for me to give. Nothing was held back. I had been faithful to what I have been given.

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Wouldn't this handily explain why the "god of the bible" is nowhere to be found? Perhaps our imaginary god doesn't wish to reinforce that woefully ignorant view of itself?

Your understanding is lacking princess. Fore what of those who are positivly reinforced when they do find that narrow road?

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But, they do not have nor ever really established a relationship with God.

Having a personal relationship with God is like having a personal relationship with a leprechaun, because the relationship will always only be one sided.

..and you know this how? Because it is one sided with you???

Do you really see yourself as the one and only true standard in which the whole universe is measured? Because you don't know God, you think God is unknowable?