Proving God Existence

[Muslim Scholar]

Your initial assumptions fail because they are not verifiable. They are not obvious. They may apply to our Universe, but you then infer something out of the Universe from them, hence you need to take into account the events out of our Universe... if such a thing exists.... and those could be infinite, which lead to your assumption failing.

The impossibility of infinity is not an assumption or based on our universe
It is based on our definition of terms

3 facts that are more solid than yours? LOL
Gravity exists is a good assumption for someone who lives in the vicinity of a massive object, like our planet Earth.

You cannot even prove that!
Maybe it is Santa who is pulling things to each other.

Red light has a longer wavelength than blue light.

Maybe in another universe it is not so

My nick is pocaracas.

This is something I cannot argue with

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I didn't use the concept of mystery, I proved it

Never happened.

If the creator is unique, his actions must be a mystery, i.e. not similar to anything we know

You can prove B by proving the impossibility of A, even if you cannot explain or know B.

Not when you've created a false dilemma. You don't just get to say, "Here are the two options I think we must consider, and A fails, so B must be true." Either you can see that you are working backward from history's worst confirmation bias, or you are a child molester.[/quote]
It is also based on the disjoint, either creator(s) exist or not, there is no other option
If a No creator is impossible then a creator (or more) is a must.

I think this thread is too advanced to your (mutated) mind!

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If there are two options A & B

You can prove B by proving the impossibility of A, even if you cannot explain or know B.

It doesn't work in QM. Either a photon is a particle or a wave. Yet, it's neither and both.

QM is just an assumption not real!
It is based on uncertainty so they formulated a mathematical model to be able to use it practically

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You make a claim about what is outside of space and time and say god must be unique because if there was another one like him then there would be time because time is related events between two things.

I didn't disagree with you on this I simply asked you to then explain how god does things such as decide to create a universe or have thoughts himself if he cannot have time or processes due to your own definition of god (a single entity with no inner processes or parts).

The question is meaningless as we only know/understand things similar to what we observe in the Universe, God is not like anything we know so even our words cannot explain How he do things.

This means your proof that god is unique is actually just an unsubstantiated claim and nothing more nothing less.

It is conforming with the uniqueness of God not to understand

It isn't that I'm agreeing with you or disagreeing with you but you just cannot explain your own proof that god is unique. And you're imposing rules on what is outside of space and time.

Explaining How and Why god do things in not part of the proof!

We don't know what exists outside of space and time so we have no rules of physics regarding what is outside of space and time.

Correct, but I didn't talk about physics at all

Your claims of what happens outside of space and time cannot be verified anyway because no scientist knows what happens outside of our space and time.

you are mixing logic with science!

Even if your claims are true they prove god cannot have a conscious because he has no time or processes in which to think, so he could not have decided to create the universe before time existed

No, he can, because this will be the first event
You see; using the word "Before" can only be applied if you have more than one event (as you just did: 1-Descision 2-Creation)

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Time can't be infinite, so God must think without time. We define thinking as a change in the state of mind (i.e. over time), and God must be changeless, so with God, thinking means exactly what it doesn't mean. It's sooo obvious.

I neither claimed that God think without time nor claimed that God is changeless