Childhood indoctrination

[bennyboy]

Finally got to read some of it.

So you are a card carrying Animals Australia advocate who is nothing but a latte sipping urbanite from Melbourne who is taking vegan/ vegetarianism into politics and corrupting it to bring down a billion dollar export industry at a time when Australia needs every export dollar it can muster? Well done.

You sir are what is wrong with this country. Safe in your urban environment, immune to the water rations and devastation wrought by drought , complaining bitterly that the Government Services have to cut fire breaks to save homes and people and livestock during the Ash Wednesday and Black Saturday fires, happy to see our indigenous population suffer and remain in poverty because YOU don't like the fact that they have found a way to be who they are mustering and running a cattle station for export livestock which enables them to contribute and be a part of the mainstream Australian economy.

YOUR ethics disgust me! How DARE you demean the countless vegan/ vegetarians who chose this life-style for medical or personal preference. How DARE you politicise this choice that would see billions of dollars wiped off our GDP. No. YOU are a political animal and as such will find your answer from the Australian people in September.

It has NEVER occurred to you that IF people could have sown crops in this tiny little spot know as "the Gippsland" they would have done so, instead of turning into pasture land? Has it occurred to you that IF you feel so anxious to obtain vegetarian nirvana that perhaps you might consider creating your own garden? And don't give me that pathetic whine that you live in an apartment block...our own Summer Queen lives in similar conditions and is able to supplement her vegetable stock with balcony planting and she has a much shorter growing cycle than we do here in Australia.

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Humans are fundamentally flawed and so is life in general.

Are you going to insist that you live in your little bubble of nirvana? Or are you going to get out and see the real world and stop being fed a myth? Are you content to swallow second hand information or are you going to get off that fat behind of yours (metaphorically speaking) and go and see for yourself just what happens?

Obvious appeal to emotion is obvious.

Through time, all appeals to change are met with outrage at the (solveable) pragmatic difficulties. How DARE we put oilworkers out of work by suggesting the move to cleaner, renewable energy sources? Don't we care about the oilworkers' families? How DARE we tell slaveowners that their "tradional" method of getting rich, forcing black people to work without pay, is immoral? Don't we know that black people were put there by the Lord to serve us? How DARE you tell doctors to wash their hands before surgery? Don't you know that the deaths of mothers in the maternity ward is due to their intrinsic weakness?

These are the wrong questions to ask. The right questions, in moral terms, are what kind of world do we want to live in, and how can it be achieved? I think any reasonable person should make as his goal the (non-euphemestic!) reduction of suffering caused by our species, and the minimization of impact of our species on the ecosystems of the world.

It is BECAUSE we no longer ascribe to BS religious doctrines that we can no longer justify the position that humans have been handed the world, and everything in it, to use and abuse as we see fit, simply because it allows us to purchase bigger houses and nicer cars.