(June 18, 2013 at 7:04 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No, I hold a view you obviously never understood to begin with, or else you would have never abandoned it.
Well, at least you admit that you are locked into religion's grip. Doesn't help your argument, but at least it's "intellectually honest".
Quote: You see, in the real world, divine election makes no sense because, in the real world, free will exists.
Quote:Proof?
Sure, I'm making a conscious choice to respond to you right now, just as you will make a conscious choice whether to respond to me.
Pretty simply, and pretty obvious. But I get that you have a lot of hurdles in the way of accepting that right now.
Quote:So you admit intentionally misrepresenting what we believe? That’s not surprising.
I admit that I have made no attempt, up to this point, to thoroughly explain Calvanism.
The fact is, the vast majority of Christians are not Calvanists, so it's rarely relevant in any of these discussions.
In fact, around here, it's just with you, as far as I can tell.