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Atheism - to die for!
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RE: Atheism - to die for!
(December 22, 2009 at 8:17 am)tackattack Wrote: Since Frodo didn't answer them directly I'll take a stab to stir up conversation.

1: Perhaps it knew (presupposing consciousness) that we couldn't handle such knowledge. It's evident by the destruction man has wrought on this planet and to each other. What creator would want it's creations to destroy other creations? I'm pretty sure it's called the tred of "good and evil" in most translations, not self-awareness. Knowledge (of whatever) does not predicate self-awareness.
2:I see it as a restriction from a perfect place. In the schema of eternity what's a few millenium in a world where we have to fend for ourselves. My dad put me on restriction all the time.
3Confusedtupidity supposes intelligence and consciouness. The rest is a false dichotomy. I didn't leave my wallet on the table to test my wife to see if she'd steal from me. I didn't care if she took anything either, she'd done it before and would do it again. I put it there because I got busy playing games and it was a thorn in my butt when I sat down.

1. If it knew we couldn't handle that knowledge, then why even create the tree in the first place? It seems pointless for a creator to create a tree for the sole purpose of causing trouble. Also, creators wanting its creations to destroy other creations is mind boggling. Many times in the bible God wants the children of Israel to sacrifice their animals. Why God wants his followers to destroy his creations are beyond me. If he is all-knowing, then he should know that they are faithful to him and doesn't need them to demonstrate it by sacrifice.

2. I have to agree with the original 2 "God has a tendency for over the top punishments." In either Exodus, Leviticus, or Numbers (I forget which), a man is killed for working on Sunday, and all the man did was gather sticks.

3. The thing that stuck out to me in your number 3 point is that you did not care. If you did care, you probably would have put it in a safer spot. God did care and he showed that by punishing the rest of humanity for two people's mistake. A logical being would have put the tree in a place that was not accessible by people.
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Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 21, 2009 at 1:21 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Zhalentine - December 21, 2009 at 1:27 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 6:07 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 7:13 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Edwardo Piet - December 21, 2009 at 7:18 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 21, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 10:06 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Rhage - December 21, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 21, 2009 at 7:02 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 21, 2009 at 7:33 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Amphora - December 21, 2009 at 7:37 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 21, 2009 at 7:45 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Violet - December 22, 2009 at 2:42 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 7:54 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Amphora - December 21, 2009 at 8:05 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 21, 2009 at 10:45 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by fr0d0 - December 22, 2009 at 1:45 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by downbeatplumb - December 22, 2009 at 6:28 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 6:45 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by tackattack - December 22, 2009 at 8:17 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Zhalentine - December 22, 2009 at 2:22 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 22, 2009 at 4:27 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 22, 2009 at 6:31 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by fr0d0 - December 22, 2009 at 6:38 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 22, 2009 at 6:52 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by fr0d0 - December 22, 2009 at 7:55 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by chatpilot - December 22, 2009 at 8:26 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by tackattack - December 22, 2009 at 8:46 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 8:58 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 23, 2009 at 12:34 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by tackattack - December 23, 2009 at 4:02 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by Zhalentine - December 23, 2009 at 11:19 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by tackattack - December 23, 2009 at 1:22 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 23, 2009 at 6:22 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by chatpilot - December 23, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by tackattack - January 20, 2010 at 2:00 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - December 23, 2009 at 7:45 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by corbeezejd - January 20, 2010 at 4:11 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - January 20, 2010 at 7:13 pm
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by tackattack - January 21, 2010 at 10:10 am
RE: Atheism - to die for! - by TruthWorthy - January 21, 2010 at 7:39 pm

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