RE: Proving God Existence
June 19, 2013 at 5:42 am
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2013 at 5:47 am by Simsim.)
(June 19, 2013 at 3:11 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Here is the summary
I proposed a logical proof of God existence (read the first post)
No one (till now) was able to refuse it, however most people are not accepting it (illogical)
For you, you need to refute it or accept it
If not, God will put you in Hell
Thanks. I read your argument about the existence of God. I will not debate it although I have many scientific and logical reservations. But let neglect all of this and discuss only the conclusion that this God is the Islamic God.
You jumped to that God is that of Islam without any reasonable deduction. Of course I know it is easy to give arguments for the existence of God, but It is almost impossible to prove that a specific religion is true.
Can you prove that this god is not a deistic one. I can put many versions of God which is more sufficient than the Islamic one. For example:
1- A god who created the universe and he is unique, having no image, etc ... but he don't speak to people.
2- A god who created the universe who meets all the criteria you mention but will not resurrect us after death.
3- A god who created the universe and meets all the criteria and will resurrect us but he is not interested in our beliefs but only our acts. (This would be pretty more reasonable than your Islamic version)
4- A god who created the universe just for entertainment. You may say: entertainment? are you kidding? How come God does that?
but maybe it is much better than hiding from people and testing them if they can expect his existence (not only his mere existence but also his characteristics and the certain religion he belongs to !!!!!) and if they can't he will put them into an eternal hell. Entertainment is more reasonable, I swear.
5- A god who created the universe and meets all the criteria and will resurrect us after death but he will put all of us in Hell.
6- A god who created the universe and meets all the criteria and will resurrect us after death but he will put all of us in Hell for only 700 lunar years to purify us then send us to Paradise for eternity.
7- A god who created the universe and meets all the criteria and will resurrect us after death but he will send us to Paradise directly but not in one place (degree).
8- A Christian Unitarian God and all the verses in the bible which contradict your criteria should be reinterpreted to meet them (You will find many who can do that)
9- A god who meet all your criteria but he loves atheist people only because they were so brave that they claim him to be non-existent, so he will resurrect only atheists for remunerating them and will let the rest dead.
10- etc, etc, etc, etc, etc....
Why should we jump to your conclusion that the Islamic god is the only option? What is the logical or scientific evidence that God will punish those who are not Muslims or not convinced of Islam? Can you make another algorithm for that?
I can even say that this characteristic (Punishment of unbelievers and remuneration of believers) contradicts your criteria of God which you deduced previously because these actions are surprisingly human.
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