(June 19, 2013 at 6:58 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: There’s no reason to abandon a logically sound position.
There's nothing logically sound about your position, nor is there anything appealing about it.
Quote:That’s not a proof, that’s an assertion. How do you know you are making a conscious choice freely?
So then it is your position that you are arguing with someone who is perfectly carrying out the will of god.
That's sensible! LOL.
What was that again about your position being logically sound?
Quote:I was not talking about a thorough explanation; I was talking about your misrepresentation of Calvinism up to this point in time.
I haven't misrepresented it, I've made absolutely no attempt to represent it at all.
I've mocked it to a degree to expose how meaningless and flawed it is, but I'd hardly call that a representation.
Anyway, you should really stop acting as if you are part of some extremely complicated version of Christianity.
Some are chosen for destruction, some for mercy. It's not that complicated:
“By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestined to life or death.” -- John Calvin (ICR 3:21:5)
Quote:The vast majority of theologians are Calvinists though.
I don't have those numbers, but I'd be surprised if that were true. Most Christians (theologians or not) are turned off by Calvanism. Just ask a few, they'll tell you.
Quote:There are a couple of us on here, but I am not sure why you think that’s relevant.
Calvanism isn't relevant, I agree.