(December 22, 2009 at 9:37 pm)Pippy Wrote: Recreational drugs are on addictive in the sense that you might not be able to prvoe a physical dependency, but that is not to say they are as safe a raindrops.
Nothing is 'as safe as raindrops', not the car you drive or the house you live in or the food you eat, all of which are statistically more dangerous than LSD funnily enough. As far as recreational pursuits go such as mountain biking, hiking, kayaking etc, they all are statistically more dangerous than LSD.
Quote:I also enjoy drugs in the right situation, but I had to get through the whole addict ting first, and I learned a thing or two about drugs. It is like Medicine, it is a failure of constructive problem solving. Why do I get high? Because it is interesting. Why isn't life itself interesting enough? Because I get high (or because I can)...
You shouldn't have taken addictive drugs, simple as that.
Your logic is also bullshit, for we could turn that on any pursuits that you might undertake. Why do you watch movies? Is life not interesting enough? What about books? Need fantasy to escape reality? Absolutely not - simple fact is drugs, movies, books etc are complimentary to normal life, they are not mutually exclusive.
Quote:I've done every recreational drug, never been on medication beyond my 2 months of Ritalin as a child. That was a worse experience than most of the rest.
Sounds like you probably didn't need it - woe are the diagnosticians yeah? Then again - they do more harm than good.
Quote:But as someone who had drug abuse cause problems, and watched a lot of people completley fail to function or cope, I can't support drugs. The right answer is the man up and be sober.
You saw a lot of weak willed people engage in escapism - it happens to people regardless of drug use. If you are a sensible and thoughtful person and educate yourself on responsible use then you can't go wrong. I have dozens of friends who partake in drug use and very few have ever had a problem - the ones who did were almost unanimously because they chose an addictive drug like barbiturates, opiates or benzos without knowing that consequences, they didn't do the research - but to be fair that would be no different to someone jumping in a car without lessons or knowing the rules of the road. It's the taboo attitude of society towards drugs that causes problems, education about these things is squashed quite stupidly - Very very few people know that their common codeine pain killers are highly addictive being case and point.
I think an ideal situation would be to sell non-addictive drugs at pharmacies for recreational use and simply require a potential user to take a test for certification that makes sure they have the appropriate knowledge to deal with their experience, e.g how to calm yourself down should an acid trip get messy - what doses are appropriate etc.
Quote:I think I would be one of those people that you say "need drugs to function in society", I have mental and emotional disorders, I have kind of a difficult life, sure... But I choose to live the life I was given, and think that I am better off trying to deal with my problems instead or medicating the symptoms forever. So what my brains has holes in it, that just means I have to work harder than the rest, not that I have an excuse to lie about.
Of course it's your choice whether or not you want to be integrated into society or do things in the way you naturally do - most people chose the former and would happily take a drug to better fit in - call it humanities social instincts if you will.
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