(December 23, 2009 at 3:58 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote:(December 23, 2009 at 3:26 am)tackattack Wrote: Here are some things which come to mind for me.Why not simply the other way 'round: the need for explanation necessitated god(s)?
Mythos. God necessatated explaining
I won't participate in your circular stolen concept logic. In our universe cause preempts effect. I have stated elswhere that God is the cause therefore the explaination is the effect. How could you even use the "God of the Gaps" fallacy without God first having a definition.
(December 23, 2009 at 3:58 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote:Yes. Evolution.tackattack Wrote:That necessated a higher level of morality, defining moral terpitude.So did we start without any morality? And what exactly would that mean?
(December 23, 2009 at 3:58 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote:If culture is human knowledge, belief, and behavior that depends upon the capacity for symbolic thought, then yes.tackattack Wrote:I can see that leading us further away from naturalistic communal morals towards idealistic morals.Is 'culture' somewhere in your list of possible moral shaping candidates?
(December 23, 2009 at 3:58 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote:tackattack Wrote:Abolition of Slavery. Assisting in women's rights.
Though it is fair to say that christianity had some role in abolition, it is also fair to say that it had some role in establishing and maintaining slavery. The bible has some uglly slavery condoning paragraphs in it. If you're sure they are all just metaphorical sidesteps to enhance its legibility, I'll rip 'm out right away so we cannot be confused any longer, and I suggest you do the same.
I try to stip out as much humanity from the divine as possible. However for reference (since the bibele is used against me a lot) I'll keep those pages in there.
(December 23, 2009 at 3:58 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote: Some parts of christianity has partly followed growing consensus on women's rights, but it is gross revisionistic crap to suggest that christianity has been on the forefront of that.I wasn't aware we were limiting the conversation to Christianity. I thought the question was contributions of religion. For lack of clarity I'll omit that from the list and replace with ... long standing, strong, self-sustaining communities and site mormonism.