RE: Proving God Existence
June 22, 2013 at 5:38 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2013 at 5:40 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(June 19, 2013 at 8:51 am)Simsim Wrote: I read some posts. All what can be said was already said over and over again. (Of course because we are talking about 45 pages )Most of you are stereotypes repeating the same general statements
I think all the arguments for God's existence don't work well. Also, to be honest, all the arguments which I read in my life against his existence are not convincing. But atheism for me is just the lack of belief for the lack of evidence. It is not the "belief" in the non-existence of God for you have nothing to have a belief in. So, until further notice, the possibility of God is the same possibility of that we live in an advanced computer made by other conscious beings whatever the hell this means. (This mainly has been said in this topic)
but no one was able to specify exactly where it fails, can you?
(June 19, 2013 at 10:19 am)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: I've stood idly long enough. Time to proof the true god. You listening, MS?You actually confirmed my proof not refuted it!
I shall prove The Dude's existence.
Trying to figure some necessary/definitive attributes for G
1. The Dude is the creator/initiator of the Universe
2. The Dude is unique
3. The Dude has actions (p)
4. The Dude is outside time, Dude must be one unit as if there are more than one entity time can be related to each other, but as time did not exist, then Dude is one UN-separated self-dependent unit
(The Eternal, The one, The self sufficient)
5. The Dude is outside and separate from the Universe
6. The Dude has a will; as if he didn’t then creating/starting the universe must be initiated from an external source which contradicts with the (proved) non-existence of time.
7. As Dude is unique and not similar to matter in the universe, he doesn’t have an image (an image is a reflection of light from objects; objects are constructed from molecules and atoms)
I didn't prove the existence of a God called Allah or God or whatever
I proved the existence of something that started the universe and has some attributes
You can call him whatever you want
Proving Allah or God or Islam still to come.