1. I'm fairly certain I stated I wasn't good at debate and I didn't come here to argue. Merely to learn and debate, (however poor ill equiped I am) seems a method to understanding atheism and agnosticism (not that they're directly related).
2. I try to accept a plethera of possibilities. Illiteration aside, in science isn't a theory postulated based on observation. tested, observed, and qualified?What do you base theory off of if not observation? Before you say imagination (which is an observation of subconscious imagery) I'm seriously just asking the question to understand the process.
3. I'd like to read up on any uncaused effects you know of. please point me to the books.
4. It would only be circular logic that "In our universe cause preempts effect. I have stated elswhere that God is the cause therefore the explaination is the effect." If you're under the assumption that God exists only in our universe which I didn't state. My best assumptions on God would be that he exists outside the ruleset existing within our known universe. I agree though, we should stick to religion and keep God and the divine out of it
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No you misunderstood. What I know of evolution was that we developed from primates, started walking upright and formed communities. Logically due to our upright nature and less defensive capabilities developed strong communities ties leading to communal morality and ethics. I'm agreeing that evolution contributed to communal morality.
6. See 4 about my references for God.
7. I am not implying "mormonism is on the forefront of women rights". I was substituting a different point to replace women's rights. Since forefront is subjective, and our levels of justification differ, I was eliminating it from the list.
8.The comment on Christianity was more of a needle to your apparent psychological aversion to Christianity and keep the religion discussion on a broader basis than one religion.
2. I try to accept a plethera of possibilities. Illiteration aside, in science isn't a theory postulated based on observation. tested, observed, and qualified?What do you base theory off of if not observation? Before you say imagination (which is an observation of subconscious imagery) I'm seriously just asking the question to understand the process.
3. I'd like to read up on any uncaused effects you know of. please point me to the books.
4. It would only be circular logic that "In our universe cause preempts effect. I have stated elswhere that God is the cause therefore the explaination is the effect." If you're under the assumption that God exists only in our universe which I didn't state. My best assumptions on God would be that he exists outside the ruleset existing within our known universe. I agree though, we should stick to religion and keep God and the divine out of it
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So we started without morality and without morality means evolution? Makes no sense to me. Does evolution prohibit the development of morality in any way? So evolution has stopped now?
No you misunderstood. What I know of evolution was that we developed from primates, started walking upright and formed communities. Logically due to our upright nature and less defensive capabilities developed strong communities ties leading to communal morality and ethics. I'm agreeing that evolution contributed to communal morality.
6. See 4 about my references for God.
7. I am not implying "mormonism is on the forefront of women rights". I was substituting a different point to replace women's rights. Since forefront is subjective, and our levels of justification differ, I was eliminating it from the list.
8.The comment on Christianity was more of a needle to your apparent psychological aversion to Christianity and keep the religion discussion on a broader basis than one religion.
