RE: Four questions for Christians
June 22, 2013 at 5:27 pm
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2013 at 5:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 22, 2013 at 3:07 am)Consilius Wrote: As I said, the death of a first-born child was a crippling punishment TO THE PARENTS, not the children.-and yet, in the narrative, the kids are dead. End of.
Quote: It also was a reciprocation of what the Egyptians had done before. They had not killed Israelites, they had killed their babies.Neither the children nor the children's parents were involved in the narrative. Its a revenge story that extracts a price from those un-involved.
Quote:What they did was much worse than killing the Israelites themselves, but rather they had cut off their bloodlines and killed their family names, and the continuity of your family name was extremely important.Which is all very entertaining, but none of it ever occurred, of course - so again neither did the death of the first-born.
Quote:Why not just punish Pharaoh, then?:Looks up:
Because the Egyptians are guilty, too.
The rest of the post is a long winded appeal, paint god as being "no worse" than some other despot or dunce all you like, I won't argue. Besides, it's a very astute observation even if the implications are lost. On the other hand, if you want to talk "morality" - you've been condemning your fairy with every defense. Think about that for a minute. God doing something because "pharoah did it" or it was "no worse than what the egyptians did" is pretty dismal. That's how my -kids- excuse their bad behavior........
Meh, in any case, it's not a problem for christendom, because we know that it never occurred. Wouldn't it be easier to say "fiction" than to fail at defending such horrid shit? Say it with me-
"My god is bigger than all those fairy tales"....................
:igh::
(June 22, 2013 at 1:48 am)Consilius Wrote: Therefore, I will judge an alleged prophet like this:
Rgr, you'll apply your preconceived notions of what god -should- say to whatever someone tells you god -did- say (and apparently you don't believe that god speaks to people any more than I do...)..and then determine the status.
Would it surprise you if "god" ever said something that you wouldn't...and is this even possible under such a scheme? If "god" or a prophet of "god" told you to drive out some group of people, kill all that you could, blot out their very memory as a group...it's likely that you wouldn't interpret that as anything a god might say, eh? So what was all this above about killing kids?
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