RE: First things first
June 25, 2013 at 6:02 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2013 at 6:04 pm by Savannahw.)
I'm sorry your wife had to go through that. Losing a belief is not easy. I don't disagree with your first point.
Do you believe in aliens? Yes no? Is it a cool concept? Do you find it believable? Now ask your self the same questions about souls. I find it believable, because I understand why other people believe in them.
Do you personally place a real, spiritual value to religious claims? From what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, that would be paramount to believing in these places/practices.
The value I place in religious claims has come from man. But if you asking if I believe that religious claims have a higher power behind them? They could. I don't really find that important. I don't believe they do. I find more significance in the value people place on them.
Point 4. I could stop at that. Usually I do. Sometimes I don't. If the word spiritual fits, better I'll use it. There is a labyrinth at a church in my city. It is a spiritual place to me. A deep connection doesn't cut it. If I say my husband and I have a spiritual connection, then deep connection doesn't go far enough. If spiritual fits the situation better, I'm not afraid of someone disagreeing with me or answering the questions it raises.
I think the last point just shows how different we are as people. I'm not going to question a persons beliefs, that is personal. If they have questions, I will answer if I can. If I know someone with an outrageous belief, that doesn't hurt anyone, I'll let them keep it. I might research for myself, but you can not convince someone to change their beliefs unless they want to.
It seemed religious. I'm sure they felt it was spiritual, but I found it ritualistic.
It probably used used mostly that way, but try to say woooooooo while wiggling your eyebrows. Can you keep a straight face?
Do you believe in aliens? Yes no? Is it a cool concept? Do you find it believable? Now ask your self the same questions about souls. I find it believable, because I understand why other people believe in them.
Do you personally place a real, spiritual value to religious claims? From what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, that would be paramount to believing in these places/practices.
The value I place in religious claims has come from man. But if you asking if I believe that religious claims have a higher power behind them? They could. I don't really find that important. I don't believe they do. I find more significance in the value people place on them.
Point 4. I could stop at that. Usually I do. Sometimes I don't. If the word spiritual fits, better I'll use it. There is a labyrinth at a church in my city. It is a spiritual place to me. A deep connection doesn't cut it. If I say my husband and I have a spiritual connection, then deep connection doesn't go far enough. If spiritual fits the situation better, I'm not afraid of someone disagreeing with me or answering the questions it raises.
I think the last point just shows how different we are as people. I'm not going to question a persons beliefs, that is personal. If they have questions, I will answer if I can. If I know someone with an outrageous belief, that doesn't hurt anyone, I'll let them keep it. I might research for myself, but you can not convince someone to change their beliefs unless they want to.
(June 25, 2013 at 4:55 pm)whateverist Wrote:(June 25, 2013 at 4:35 pm)Savannahw Wrote: I went to one nondenominational church in a strip-mall. They were interesting. They laid hands, spoke in tongues, would beat their hands, shout and I mean shout. Then they all broke down and cried at the end. Not a dull moment.
That's some pretty weird shit alright. Did it seem spiritual? I admit I don't use that word a lot.
Oh, and "woo" is something I only use in a derogatory way.
It seemed religious. I'm sure they felt it was spiritual, but I found it ritualistic.
It probably used used mostly that way, but try to say woooooooo while wiggling your eyebrows. Can you keep a straight face?