First things first

[Whateverist]

So you are quite sure that what we know now is all there is to know

Dont fucking twist my words to suit your own fantasy.

What do you think would have been more fair? How about "Brian claims we know all that is necessary now to rule out all other modes of being except entities as we experience them here on earth and inanimate objects and energy such as science has detected so far." Have I fairly represented your position now?

There are in human history dead claims that no one goes around claiming anymore and even the top scientist Stephen Hawkins says "God is not required", so if that is the case why would any form of cognition be required?

But is everything not required necessarily ruled out? That seems to me to be your conclusion.

Do not accuse me of being a know it all. I can't build a combustion engine either but I certainly can rule out pixy dust fueling my car.

Saying "science and nature" are all there is does not mean we have discovered everything about the universe.

Well do you accept my revised formulation of your position, that we've discovered everything necessary to rule out the possibility of matter and energy ever coming together to create something like consciousness in any other way or at any other level than that which we observe at the neuronal level in creatures on this planet? Now I personally do not harbor any suspicion that consciousness does arise at any other greater order of structure than that of the neuron, but that is at best a hunch. I truly do not know. If you think it is a "known fact", perhaps you could provide some support?

Gap filling is what you are doing, not me.

If so, I wish you would be more specific. How am I to improve without better feedback?

Neil Degress Tyson has a video somewhere explaining the history of gap filling some scientists in history would do and stop and say "we cant know anymore so therefor god did it" Only for further scientists to go further and take once was attributed to a god, to nature.

"ENTITY" is the same gap crap with a different name. "Entity" what exactly does that fucking mean? Seems as hollow and vacuous as every damned god claim I've ever heard.

Well, it was your choice, not mine.

Keeping an open mind does not presume which is what you are doing. If I am going to place my bets on any future discovery our best data so far is increasingly and speeding toward pointing to "all this" as as being non cognitive so thus whatever we do discover ALSO would not need an "entity" or a God" to explain.

Surely you do not think I am arguing for any of that. I don't claim any gods are needed to explain anything. And no one will be more surprised than me if a few should turn up.

Now unless you can define "entity" as more than "something" I'd suggest you scrap such vacuous hollow language, and look to the best data we have to date. All you are doing is pulling shit out of your ass because the idea of an "entity" feels right to you.

The universe is a what, not a who. THAT we do know so we can rule out a "who" as a cause.

Again, "entity" was your choice. I was listening to and trying to make sense of what you were saying. But frankly, fuck you.