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Conflicting statements in the bible
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
(June 26, 2013 at 6:51 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: If you now claim that the majority of people are not rational then why would you try to point out the fact that the majority of people do not accept Calvinism? That’d be expected then, you sure are inconsistent.

Calvanists have imaginary friends as well. Seemed like an obvious implication to me, but I'll better clarify in the future.... with you, anyway.

Quote:So the case for God’s existence is compelling since the majority of people accept theism? That’s an interesting concession for an atheist to make.

Not at all. You said Calvanism ".. is appealing..." I was simply demonstrating that it is not. Try and keep up.

Quote:And yours apparently Mr. Atheist, that’s funny.

Atheists, for the most part, do not entertain imaginary friends.

Calvanists, however, call on the same god that super freaky charasmatic televangelists like Benny Hinn call upon.

Quote:Which you have also admitted is true.

Don't get too excited. It's hardly a complement.

Quote:False.

Wow, you settled that didn't you!

Quote:Nope, they prefer a more worldly form of Christianity, and as you have helped to demonstrate the world is not logical at all.

That's over 80 percent true.

Quote:Oops you forgot (or intentionally left out) the other four definitions for the noun “Will”!

1. the faculty of conscious and especially of deliberate action; the power of control the mind has over its own actions: the freedom of the will.
2. power of choosing one's own actions: to have a strong or a weak will.
3. the act or process of using or asserting one's choice; volition: My hands are obedient to my will.
4. wish or desire: to submit against one's will.
5. purpose or determination, often hearty or stubborn determination; willfulness: to have the will to succeed.

God’s efficacious will is consistent with definition number 3 and 4, and His decreed will is consistent with definition number 4.

Argue

Quote:Wait, so you cannot prove that man has a free will? Ok.

Can you prove you are not in a matrix?

Quote:You claimed that you could prove that you have a free will, I am still waiting for that formal proof. Until I get it, I’ll just chalk it up as another one of your classic embarrassing blunders.

I gave it to you in the form of conversation that you couldn't predict. However, you chose to continue to trivialize that, and so I ask again:

Can you prove that you are not in a matrix?

Quote:I just gave you the meaning of creation, and free of charge.

Did you do that, or god do that? And was my response generated by god, or was that me?

Just trying to see if you still believe in free will, or if you are still contending that god is debating himself here.

Quote:And that is why you were completely ignorant of the two wills of God? That's classic smax right there.

Not at all. Classic smax is making a mockery of religion knowing all too well what many sections believe.

Don't get mad, god made me say that.....

and that too.

Quote:What point? That I agree with the Westminster Confession of Faith? That’s hardly a point worth arguing, of course I do.

Oh, I see. So when a contradiction is pointed out, you'll just simply agree to both and avoid addressing the conflcting information. That's classic Stat there.

Quote:Nope, God is bringing glory to Himself through this debate by showing how utterly illogical and hopeless unbelievers are without His regenerating grace.


So then you concede that I have free will. Great. Don't know why it took you so long.

By the way, soak in that feeling right now........

........

........

Okay, break is over! Go back to feeling like a robot now.

Quote:God having two wills is not a contradiction because a contradiction must be in the same sense and in the same relationship. You’re really bad at this. Tongue

You mean god is bad at this, right?

Or am I just bad of my own free will?
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Conflicting statements in the bible - by Baalzebutt - April 19, 2013 at 4:48 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 19, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by swordwords - April 23, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Mononoke - April 19, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tonus - April 19, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 19, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 9:35 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Plotinus - April 20, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 20, 2013 at 8:43 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 22, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 20, 2013 at 9:49 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 20, 2013 at 10:34 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Aedrone1 - April 20, 2013 at 10:10 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Kayenneh - April 21, 2013 at 5:56 am
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Gilgamesh - April 21, 2013 at 6:01 am
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 21, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by archangle - April 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 22, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 23, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 22, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Godschild - April 22, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Baalzebutt - April 23, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 22, 2013 at 9:29 pm
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 23, 2013 at 1:04 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 23, 2013 at 2:13 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by John V - April 23, 2013 at 2:47 pm
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by John V - April 23, 2013 at 3:53 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by John V - April 24, 2013 at 8:27 am
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 25, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by John V - April 25, 2013 at 3:01 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Baalzebutt - April 25, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 25, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 26, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 25, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by iameatingjam - April 28, 2013 at 7:04 pm
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 30, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Godschild - April 30, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 29, 2013 at 7:53 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by popeyespappy - April 23, 2013 at 6:50 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Cinjin - April 24, 2013 at 2:02 am
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 24, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 25, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by justin - April 25, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 25, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 25, 2013 at 5:09 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Cinjin - April 26, 2013 at 9:28 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 27, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tonus - April 27, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 25, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 25, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 25, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Ryantology - April 26, 2013 at 10:13 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 25, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 25, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Minimalist - April 26, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 27, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 28, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Ryantology - April 27, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 27, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - April 28, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 28, 2013 at 5:08 pm
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tex - May 1, 2013 at 10:39 am
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by John V - May 2, 2013 at 10:20 am
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by John V - May 2, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by John V - May 3, 2013 at 8:08 am
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by ThomM - May 2, 2013 at 4:19 pm
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Cato - May 28, 2013 at 5:37 pm
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Cato - May 28, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by smax - June 3, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by smax - June 5, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tonus - June 6, 2013 at 10:36 am
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Silver - June 13, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Silver - June 13, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by smax - June 15, 2013 at 1:45 am
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by smax - June 18, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by smax - June 18, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Cato - June 18, 2013 at 11:11 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tonus - June 19, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by smax - June 19, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by smax - June 24, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tonus - June 21, 2013 at 8:14 am
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Cyberman - June 24, 2013 at 6:50 pm
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by Tonus - June 26, 2013 at 9:13 am
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by smax - June 26, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: Conflicting statements in the bible - by smax - June 27, 2013 at 12:58 pm
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