From atheism to tentative agnosticism

[Cyberman]

I haven't told you what you do and don't believe. Believe what you want. However, if you want to assess someone's view you need to go with their definitions not your own barmy ones.

I hereby humbly submit for the court's approval the case for the prosecution, M'Lud:

that's because whatever you say you mean by the word 'atheist' most people understand it to mean 'the belief that no gods exist'.

I'm afraid you are the one using the term in a quite ludicrous fashion

But you know what I mean by 'atheism' because I have told you. And I am arguing that morality provides some reason to think atheism is false.
You can use 'atheism' to mean 'tuesday' if you wish, but I am using it to mean the view that no gods exist.

You were saying?

So, when I say that morality seems incompatible with atheism I mean that morality is incompatible with the non-existence of a god.

Fine, then let's go with that instead of making up definitions of basic terms purely to set up one's own position and then getting all pissy about being shown up to be both incorrect and contradictory.

The fact you mean by 'atheism' 'dining table' is neither here nor there.

Neither is your pathetic attempt at ridicule. Your blatant strawmanning, however, is duly noted.