(July 5, 2013 at 1:02 pm)Koolay Wrote:(July 5, 2013 at 8:58 am)paulpablo Wrote: You don't understand determinism.
Determinism doesn't mean you are a rock, or people are rocks, or that one person cannot convince someone of something or change somebodies mind about something.
If determinism had anything to do with this then no one would believe in it, since it's obvious that
(1) People aren't rocks.
(2) People can manipulate or convince people of ideas.
Determinism means that free will is an illusion because you were already predetermined to do whatever you are going to do and whatever you have done.
I know what it means, but where is the reason and evidence?
Your first post clearly gave the impression you don't know what it means at all that's why I gave an explanation, I've never claimed to have proof of determinism I just believe it is something that is a very plausible way of looking at things, I don't even really care about it. The only claim I'm making is that you obviously didn't understand determinism because it has nothing to do with humans being rocks or communication between living things being futile.
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