(July 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Consilius Wrote: Omnipotence: God is a supernatural being, not my pet dragon. Why would God work against himself if he wills everything he does?
Why does god's "perfect" creation work against his "perfect" plan? From the very beginning his beloved creation fucked up and slighted him. Now he has to burn most of them, even though it makes him sad to do it.
Makes sense.......
(July 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Consilius Wrote: Omniscience: God knows past, present, and future, forever has, and forever will. God is love, and he wanted to express this love by creating other beings to love so that they could love him.
He sure chose a fucked up way of expressing his love through this creation.
(July 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Consilius Wrote: Onmibenevolence: Countless men, women, and children stub their toes on doorsteps every day. If you're going to bring up the question of evil, you have to go all the way. Life and the world are nothing compared to a gift that God doesn't take: his always being there. Life is a path towards this gift. Suffering weans us from life, health, family, possessions, and the other physical things we rely on and show us that our lives of something else, and it has something to offer us. Some people say it's chance leading us to uncertain fate, while others take suffering as a step closer to God and his gift.
Stubbed toes......you're right, if we're going to go to the question of evil, we have to all the way. The rest of your answer doesn't even come close to addressing the absurd atrocities and downright unjust lives lived by millions of people around the world who are never given the chance to experience anything other than hardship and suffering. And then they starve to death. God loves all his children. Give me a fucking break with this and your pretty, privileged life.
(July 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Consilius Wrote: Omniprescence: God is everywhere in the sense that his love and power can be felt by people all around the world, no matter in what place or conditions they are in.
Bullshit. Just because the thought of an all loving/knowing/powerful dude in the sky tickles your taint, doesn't negate the fact that this world, all facets of it, makes more sense if god doesn't exist than if he does. You're apologetics are neither warranted nor wanted.
But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret is as though it had an underlying truth.
Umberto Eco
Umberto Eco