RE: What is "FAITH"
July 9, 2013 at 1:45 am
(This post was last modified: July 9, 2013 at 1:51 am by Bad Writer.)
(July 9, 2013 at 12:58 am)Godschild Wrote: I did not call you childish...
Ahem...
(July 9, 2013 at 12:58 am)Godschild Wrote: With that you proved how childish you are, how's that.
Oh...you didn't say that?
Look, to save us time in future posts, please don't call me a liar. I will catch you in the act every time. Do you understand?
(July 7, 2013 at 8:32 pm)Godschild Wrote: Yes you were dishonest, I stated the evidence I gave was tangible to me, you did twist it around to sound like i was stating I had proof of God. Most here know I would never say I have proof, I've made the statement many times that I can not prove God to anyone.
Evidence = proof. Saying that you have either is admitting to both. If you have evidence AT ALL, even it's only tangible to you, is still claiming evidence/proof.
Sadly, it's also not real evidence. So...it looks like most here don't know that you say you don't have proof, because you're still claiming proof. Faith is not proof; it's just faith. It's also a dishonest feeling.
If you can't prove god to anyone, then you're contradicting what you just said by telling people to pray and read the scriptures. That's telling people there's a way that god can be proven. Do you not see it that way? If you don't, then you're delusional...again. Let's get rid of your delusions, shall we?
Anyway.
Let me pose a question to you. Why do you think that I and other people here are asking you for proof? I will reply only to your honest answer of this.
Moving on for a moment.
(July 7, 2013 at 8:32 pm)Godschild Wrote: Calm down and come off the ceiling, I did not assert that you said there was no God, please read carefully and logically reason what's been said, let's try this again. I stated,"prove to me I can't possibly believe in God. Want to try again?
...are you shitting me? This changes nothing, so don't play semantics with me.
I'm not going to prove anything to you that I never claimed, and don't be a stick in the mud about it.
Your claim. Your proof. Not mine.
By the way, read the next quote of yours where you're asking me for proof of you being wrong. You can try to play this semantics game all day with me, but you're going to lose. Focus on what's important here, please.
(July 7, 2013 at 8:32 pm)Godschild Wrote: You think what you have to say would discourage me, someone with no proof that I'm wrong, now you're trying to be funny, right.
Bam! Now shove off about this, and don't ask me for proof of stuff I never claimed.
(July 7, 2013 at 8:32 pm)Godschild Wrote: The only ones that are cowards are those who will not open the Bible and investigate, why is it you are afraid of what the scriptures have to say to you?
Who are you to say that I haven't? Bold claim there. Again, the proof is on you to find out whether or not I've studied the Bible to investigate.
Are you beginning to notice the trend here with our little chat?
(July 7, 2013 at 8:32 pm)Godschild Wrote: Encourage me, really, more like give up what you believe, it's not real, forget it I know without doubt that God is real and is who He says He is. My thoughts are rational, just because you think I'm wrong doesn't make it wrong. I say what I know is the truth, you ignore it and continue to do so because you're afraid to study scripture.
Here it is. Right here. You are making your claim "that God is real and is who he says He is". That's when you are supposed to present evidence to an outrageous claim.
Look at it this way: if my neighbor tells me he was abducted by aliens, and his story is corroborated by dozens of other abductees with details in their stories that match his, should I believe him in his outrageous claim, or should I remain skeptical?
The answer is to remain skeptical. It's the same thing if I tell you there's a unicorn standing behind me. You answer that you cannot see it. Then I tell you that it's because it's invisible and that you need faith to believe it's there. Not only am I being dishonest with you in making such an outrageous, unsubstantiated claim, but I'm requiring dishonesty of you when I ask for you to use faith.
The same is with god and believers of this god. Now tell me...how is believing in invisible unicorns at all rational if the proof is simply your own?
(July 9, 2013 at 1:19 am)Godschild Wrote:(July 8, 2013 at 4:19 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: What proof do you have outside of the Bible that his eternity is not reversible?
To you God is unknown, for me I know God well, I have no doubts of His existence or who He is. You see I'm so sure of what I know there is no other option for me and if there was I would not choose another option.
You know because you know because you know.
(July 7, 2013 at 8:32 pm)Godschild Wrote: As far as Esqulax's eternal destination or your's or mine not being reversible can only come from scripture, where else is there.
And Captain Kirk said, "What does god need with a spaceship?" Your god shouldn't require anyone of anything, nor should he require anything himself if he truly is a god.
We hear of she-bears tearing up youth in times past for insulting the prophet, but this stuff doesn't happen now because we know enough to realize what is real and what isn't.
Seriously, with as much blaspheming as I do here, I should have been struck by lightning ten times over. Or was that Zeus...heh, it's easy to get these Heavenly Father archtypes so mixed up since they borrow heavily from each other in the first place.