Determinism Is Self Defeating

[Zen Badger]

And since conscience entities can make unpredictable choices regardless of constraining circumstances determinism is a null concept.

If you can't predict it, that proves determinism as a null concept? Seriously? That's what you're going for? Lack of knowledge or the ability to predict things = Oooh! Ghost!

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What is the test for determinism?

Making accurate predictions everytime.

And not just predicting that a rock will roll to the bottom of a hill, but accurately predicting its path including every bounce and tumble.

When you can do that, talk to me then.