One question for Christians

[Dionysius]

Missed this.

I read the first view pages and found just as I have elsewhere an inability to answer a question that is foundational to the tradition. I often asked why was it necessary for Jesus to be crucified? How were men saved? The answer invariably was, you are saved from God's wrath. To which just opens a string of question begging.

Where does Jesus say that His sacrafice saves us from God's wrath?

Good question, where?

Let us give thanks and the proferring of gifts to one another that Jesus did use a metaphor that is entirely absurd, that is devoid of noticeable meaning for if he had made it more rational then it wouldn't be as easy to ridicule re-educate the underdeveloped.

Jesus did say that: "He & the Father were the same".

So, maybe God Himself paid the price for sin?

But alas, that for the "unbeliever" means nothing either.

Nor can it mean something if the person proclaiming it is unable to explain how it is of benefit.

The effect is thus, believe me there is a man hiding in the clouds who has a man for a wife and together they made a son which is also the man who gives his wife to whomever will worship him. If you don't worship him your body and your soul will be destroyed by an invisible force which I have no way of verifying or explaining to you, called sin. The man sent his son the man, which is himself, down to earth and killed him but not before torturing him. He then raised him from the dead in order to confuse the hell of out of you and render moot the entire previous sacrifice and torture because he can. Also if you don't believe you will be sent to a place of fiery torment and judgement when you die for time without end. Make sense, thought it would, sign write here x____________________