(December 2, 2008 at 7:28 am)allan175 Wrote:(December 2, 2008 at 7:19 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: In a sense it kinda makes that same, "I'm a rebel" statement I've always made.Haha......That sort of "I'm a rebel" thing always makes me laugh.
Individual then but the point remains that people can use fashion (not high fashion I suppose but different fashion) to express whatever they happen to feel is worth expressing about their character.
(December 2, 2008 at 7:28 am)allan175 Wrote: For example the current "goth" fashion and when goth is interviewed "We just want to express our individualness.". And I'm not singling them out, all "fasionable" groups are the same.
Goth? Current? Get outta here! Goth's have been going for 10, 15 years ... maybe more. [nu]Metal heads like me are regarded by them as cheap copies but that's fine ... I still like their women.
I think it would be fair to say that most fashion styles are about group identity but some people tend to pick and choose what they want from various styles and those (in fashion terms) could be regarded as being a bit more individual.
What I will say (and some here may find this contentious, certainly I don't think it's in any way provable) is that people that are into rock music (and I would presume Indie though that's not really my thing) tend, as far as I can tell, to have a fairly intelligent & anti-authority outlook on life whereas the clubbing scene is much more inclusive ... seems to me a bit like the difference between soaps and real drama. That's not (can't be) any kind of rule but it is my experience so far and my best guess is that whilst there are commercial offerings rock/indie music tends more towards protest & non-conformism and, like them or not, rock/metal bands nearly always play their own instruments, write their own songs and have fairly intelligent lyrics.
This could be a separate thread entirely.
Kyu