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RE: Positive Atheism

December 30, 2009 at 3:08 pm (This post was last modified: December 30, 2009 at 3:08 pm by Purple Rabbit.)

(December 30, 2009 at 3:01 pm)Tiberius Wrote: We can be 100% certain of mathematical truth, since it's an entirely human invention. We made it, we control it. That's the difference here.

No, we cannot. Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem has shown that not all of the mathematical framework might be provable. Also the fundamental assumption is implicitly made that deductive reasoning is conclusive. How can we be 100% sure of that?

"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0

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Positive Atheism - by littlegrimlin1 - December 1, 2009 at 11:01 pm

RE: Positive Atheism - by Violet - December 2, 2009 at 12:09 am

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RE: Positive Atheism - by littlegrimlin1 - December 2, 2009 at 6:37 pm

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RE: Positive Atheism - by Tiberius - December 3, 2009 at 6:01 am

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