RE: What is "FAITH"
July 13, 2013 at 11:34 am
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2013 at 11:47 am by pineapplebunnybounce.)
(July 13, 2013 at 8:46 am)Consilius Wrote: What I am trying to say is that if I made a lightbulb right now, I could not claim to have invented the lightbulb.
The creator of the lightbulb is and can only be a man who did not have access to the lightbulb. A man who came before the lightbulb. He would have done his work by lamplight.
That's an objective, provable fact. I can build a table and take it to a patent office with similar results.
You really could've just said that. i wouldn't dispute the lightbulb thing with you.
your entire premise is dependent upon:
a) the universe being created by an intelligent being
b) this is the first universe ever to come into existence, so the creator of this (granting (a)), must be the inventor of the universe
evidence for a) and b) please.
FYI there's a model of the universe in astronomy that has the universe cycle from big bang, to an end, and then another big bang, and so on. you can find it on wikipedia. if you read a little more on wikipedia you'll find that time only exists after the big bang. so when you say before the universe, you want to clarify what on earth you mean.