RE: What is "FAITH"
July 14, 2013 at 1:51 am
(This post was last modified: July 14, 2013 at 1:57 am by pineapplebunnybounce.)
(July 14, 2013 at 1:35 am)Consilius Wrote: In some cases, that would be very relevant to this conversation. In others, it would not be.okay, once again, 14 billion. Have you not? have you not asserted that there has to be a cause? have you not asserted a personality for this cause? have you not asserted that things can exist before the universe existed? have you not disregarded the fact that cause and effect cannot work without time and insist that they work and gave birth to the universe?
My argument is completely separate from me as a forum member. The fact still remains that the universe came to be in the past, be it 4 million years or yesterday. I could be a 7-year old Creationist that believes in a flat earth and that would take nothing from my argument, because nowhere have I asserted anything as fact based on my own authority.
If not on your authority, then on whose?
Quote:If you like, disregard the last 5 pages because I don't believe in germ theory or that the New World is real. If that's what makes you comfy, make yourself superior to me and dismiss my arguments.Superiority? you are the one who said that what use are telescopes and particle accelerators and that humans do not need trial and error and you can arrive at truth without testing out anything. And you want to accuse others of acting superior? I suggest you start to address the fact that you're not gifted with special knowledge, and if you cannot prove your ideas, don't demand that they be put on equal grounds with theories that have substantially more supporting evidence than your "theory".
What you would get from that is a sin against rational thought: refusing to acknowledge that all ideas are equal.
and oh my god, thank you for bringing up sin in a discussion about what is correct and not correct about the universe.